“Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime”/ Nature

Looks like the Nature publishing company is trying to regain some respectability.  They are publishing information that has been suppressed (mostly) since the start of the pandemic.  It turns out that Covid immunity following infection appears to be life-long. Even for mild cases.  (Of course, you heard it from me that immunity was going to be long-lasting many months ago.)

THIS IS WHY YOU SHOULD NOT GET VACCINATED.  Vaccination can sometimes interfere with developing long-lasting immunity.  That is one of the things you need to test for when you develop a vaccine.  But of course, that was not done in the case of the Covid vaccines.

And so the manufacturers and the governments have already signed contracts for many doses of Covid vaccines per person in the US and EU.  This is something they never should have done without knowing the extent of populatin immunity and following the immune response over time post-vaccination. It makes absolutely no sense, unless you consider that they may have something they would like injected along with the Covid vaccines.  

I still must return to the disaster of vaccinating people who have natural immunity.  CDC and FDA do not want anyone to be able to prove they are immune naturally, so they have not approved or authorized even a single test for that purpose.  Pretty clever, huh? The reason is to force everyone to be vaccinated, even though the side effects are more pronounced in those who have recovered, and you get no benefit in terms of added immunity.  Those who claim you do are liars.  You may get a brief boost in antibody levels but it declines quickly and you are back where you started:  95% are immune after the disease, which is better than after the vaccine.  Better than after any vaccine, with the possible exceptions of the live vaccines smallpox and measles. (I know, I know, they claim 95% efficacy for the mRNA vaccines, but the study methods used to prove it were worthless.  See Dr Sin Hang Lee’s Petition to the FDA last December, which I edited.) There wouldn’t be a coverup regarding breakthrough cases in the vaccinated population if the efficacy was truly 95%.  (CDC does not want these cases reported unles they are in hospital or die, and then you also need to have a positive PCR test done with a cycle threashold no greater than 28 in order to report.  That is how CDC is belatedly minimizing reports of breakthrough cases.

But here is the good news, and it is very very good.  From Nature:

Many people who have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 will probably make antibodies against the virus for most of their lives. So suggest researchers who have identified long-lived antibody-producing cells in the bone marrow of people who have recovered from COVID-191.

The study provides evidence that immunity triggered by SARS-CoV-2 infection will be extraordinarily long-lasting. Adding to the good news, “the implications are that vaccines will have the same durable effect”, says Menno van Zelm, an immunologist at Monash University in Melbourne, Australia.

Antibodies — proteins that can recognize and help to inactivate viral particles — are a key immune defence. After a new infection, short-lived cells called plasmablasts are an early source of antibodies.

But these cells recede soon after a virus is cleared from the body, and other, longer-lasting cells make antibodies: memory B cells patrol the blood for reinfection, while bone marrow plasma cells (BMPCs) hide away in bones, trickling out antibodies for decades.

“A plasma cell is our life history, in terms of the pathogens we’ve been exposed to,” says Ali Ellebedy, a B-cell immunologist at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri, who led the study, published in Nature on 24 May.

 Researchers presumed that SARS-CoV-2 infection would trigger the development of BMPCs — nearly all viral infections do — but there have been signs that severe COVID-19 might disrupt the cells’ formation2. Some early COVID-19 immunity studies also stoked worries, when they found that antibody levels plunged not long after recovery3.

Ellebedy’s team tracked antibody production in 77 people who had recovered from mostly mild cases of COVID-19. As expected, SARS-CoV-2 antibodies plummeted in the four months after infection. But this decline slowed, and up to 11 months after infection, the researchers could still detect antibodies that recognized the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

To identify the source of the antibodies, Ellebedy’s team collected memory B cells and bone marrow from a subset of participants. Seven months after developing symptoms, most of these participants still had memory B cells that recognized SARS-CoV-2. In 15 of the 18 bone-marrow samples, the scientists found ultra-low but detectable populations of BMPCs whose formation had been triggered by the individuals’ coronavirus infections 7–8 months before. Levels of these cells were stable in all five people who gave another bone-marrow sample several months later.

*Then there is this from the abstract of a paper published in Science on April 29, which I have not read:  “HCW receiving one vaccine dose without prior infection showed reduced immunity against variants. 

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Anonymous
5 months ago

I'm wondering whether a tactical retreat is underway. There have been examples of rope-a-dope tricks being used all along, but lately there are more indications that the COVID operation is in significant trouble.

I would also like to know what's behind the sudden strength of the "lab-modified" idea, which I think is almost certainly true. I doubt it was just that a journalist, Nicholas Wade, thought it would be interesting to take another look and write a piece. There are undoubtedly factions involved, but it's hard to see the parameters of the power struggle.

The aspiring tyrants are very well organized, something that should be obvious and which is exemplified by the February 1, 2020 conference call led by Mr. Farrar. They are also well funded, given that the coalition running the op includes the institutions that can simply create money. As Reiner Fuellmich is saying, there's a vast amount of bribery going on in all of this.

Despite those strengths, the operation appears to be in some difficulty now. We need to beware of a tactical retreat followed by a new offensive against the public. We should do our best to anticipate what comes next and to minimize the element of surprise.

Dr Chris King
Dr Chris King
5 months ago

"Well, duh!" as the kids say. It's always struck me as profoundly ignorant – as in, ignoring all that is present and all that has come before – for the "experts" to have called into question the quality of natural immunity to this coronavirus. They pontificated first in advance of definitive evidence and later *despite* definitive evidence that natural immunity to this virus is expected, comprehensive, and durable.

Yet more fear of nature and natural processes!

The Irish have a marvelous term for these folks: Eejits!

Meryl Nass, M.D.
Meryl Nass, M.D.
5 months ago

I agree with commenter #1 above. The forces that put this anti-human operation together are very clever and well funded and undoubtedly have backup plans.

Since their MO is "Pandemics R Us" that seems the first likely scenario to deflect attention.

A reader emailed me regarding the UFO admissions that have come out of the US government over the past year or so. Certainly an ET event could provide the background desired to implement greater control.

We should also pay attention to what was going on for the past year while most people were locked down. Some say 5G hardware was being built out. What else? What is the space program about? Is it to gain weapons on satellites to control the planet?

The good news is that a lot of key people have been tarred by the Fauci emails, and will no longer be trusted. The next set of apparatchicks may take awhile to get into position.

Furthermore, the secondary level apparatchiks may be wondering about saving their own skin if they wind up on the losing side. Thus some are either "jumping ship" or cleaning up their web presence as best they can. K Andersen deleted his twitter account, while P Daszac deleted some tweets and blocked some enemies.

Let's keep sharing the signals we see and try to fit the pieces together.

yvette
yvette
5 months ago

Dr. Nass, if someone may have had a mild to moderate case over a year ago (never tested, so uncomfirmed), and tests negative for antibodies, would you say a T-cell test is possible/relevant to determine immunity?

Meryl Nass, M.D.
Meryl Nass, M.D.
5 months ago

In the US, today, the result of antibody and T cell tests of immunity cannot be used for any purpose, such as border crossing or travel or to get a vaccine exemption.

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