Live blogging the ACIP meeting

Matt Daley provides the initial summary.  On slide 4 he shows hospitalizations in the vaccinated and unvaccinated, making the claim that hospitalizations occur 16 times more commonly in the unvaccinated.

Now look closely at his slide 4.  In the center there is a peak.  The tip of the peak centers on May 1, 2021.  What he notably omits telling the ACIP members is that on May 1, in an attempt to lower the breakthrough infections, new guidelines went into effect to only report on breakthrough, vaccinated cases if they met 2 criteria:  they had to have died or been hospitalized, AND they also had to have had a positive test with PCR cycle threshold of 28 and below.  This effectively cut the reports of breakthrough cases way down, explaining the peak at May 1.

Next, the Pfizer rep speaks.  Only data collected through March 13 are provided–5.5 months ago.  He admits that the placebo group was unblinded at 2 months.

40% of the subjects had dropped out by 4 months–why? No comment of course.

As before, the safety issues are obscured by failing to provide diagnoses and instead listing the adverse events by organ systems.  Only the acute side effects are listed by symptoms.  But who actually cares about acute side effects that invariably resolve? Yet that is what Pfizer chooses to emphasize. 2 optic neuritis cases in vaccinees are finally acknowledged.

Slide 11 has more meat, but the side effects are lumped by organ system, effectively obscuring what they were and how severe they were.  It is claimed the adverse events are similar between the placebo group and vaccinated group.

15 deaths in vaccine group and 14 in placebo group–we have seen all this information months ago, and I have no idea why it is being presented again, except to make it appear that ACIP is being brought up to date.  Remember, the placebo group was vaccinated last December–8 months ago–so these data are at least 8 months old.  And they are uninterpretable.

For serious AEs they claim to have collected them through March.

What about the AEs of special interest?  We are presented a handful of anaphylactic or anaphylactoid reactions.  Somehow Pfizer has managed to add 2 Bell’s palsy victims to its placebo recipients, but maybe after they got vaccinated?  Hard to make sense of his chart.

Pfizer magically had a placebo group that has almost identical AEs as its vaccinated group, for example for allergic angioedema. One case of GBS occurred in the placebo group.  This is also remarkable, since GBS only occurs about once /100,000/year.  In this case it occurred in 1 in 22,000/2 months.

PEs 8 each, thromboembolism cases equal in both groups, strokes were equal, heart attacks occurred more in placebo group.  More miscarriages in the placebo group.  Pfizer is extremely fortunate that apart from anaphylaxis, its vaccine seems to be protective against every other potential adverse effect.

Over 2500 myo and pericarditis cases have been reported, CDC manages to reduce the number they are studying, such as 765 cases reported within 7 days of a dose–where are the other 1800?  Even losing most reported cases, teen males are at least 25x expected–strangely the Pfizer vaccine myocarditis peaks in the  youngest (12-15 y/o) while the Moderna induced most cases in young adults. 742 met the CDC case definition (which I earlier pointed out is too restrictive) and the vast majority of these required hospitalization, over 700. 253 of these are 90 days out and are “eligible for interview.” 

Now a study is being planned to see what happens to all these unfortunate people with cardiac inflammation–I’d say it is about time, since the problem was identified in April, 4 months ago. The new FDA documents filed last Monday with the license admit they have NO information on the myocarditis outcomes.  Guess they were too scared to look.

I have had to miss bits of this–sorry.

Grace Lee, new ACIP chair, just presented on rates of myocarditis, which are quite high, but then compares them to rates of myocarditis after Covid.  She neglected to include several important items:

1.  Many people are already immune so not susceptible to Covid and will only face risk without benefit–this is totally ignored.

2.  Furthermore, the claims of high rates of myocarditis after Covid were NOT age stratified.  Very few kids, who are at highest risk of myocarditis, have such complications of Covid.

3.  Early treatment means you don’t get myocarditis or any other late sequelae

4.  Not everyone who isn’t vaccinated will get Covid!

Dr. Rosenblum tries to scare us re young peoples’ hospitalizations–but never gives the totals hospitalized with a bizarre chart that lacks a Y axis.

She cherrypicks good outcomes in myocarditis patients.  No one mentions the college student who needed a heart transplant, then died a month later.

And she uses the VAERS reporting rate of myocarditis as if VAERS collects every case.  This is criminal negligence, since CDC knows there is massive underreporting, and says so on its website.

In the 16-17 year age group for males, 73 cases of myocarditis are expected per million doses–or 146 cases for those full vaccinated per million people.

That is 1 case of myocarditis per 7,000 vaccinated young males, assuming the VAERS reporting rate is the actual rate.  Prior analyses of VAERS suggest the VAERS reporting rate is 0.01-0.1.  Using these estimates, you would see one case of myocarditis per 70-700 males vaccinated, aged 16-17.

CDC’s Dr. Gargano now comes in for the kill:  getting ACIP to vote to put Covid-19 vaccine on the childhood schedule, which will effectively give it a liability shield for all recipients, all ages, moving the vaccine into the NVICP.

She states that all sorts of methods were used to make various estimates, none of which she provides any details for.  She then wastes everyone’s time going over the GRADE scale for evaluating reliability of evidence–in other words, a method to take subjectivity and try to convert it to objectivity. Which is widely used in medicine and requires no explanation.

Note that the speakers, especially the women, have a tone of voice and rhythm that suggests they are speaking to primary schoolchildren, apart from the medical buzzwords. I think they are chosen for this manner of speech, which tends to hypnotize the listener. Putting you to sleep seems to be the goal.  Could this be more bland?  Does CDC’s PR division write the talks for them?

Now we are told the efficacy is 90%.  Even though we know it is about 40% or less now, and no one mentions that Pres. Biden has already announced boosters will start in 3 weeks due to poor efficacy.

But we must believe that in 8 studies efficacy was 92%.  And for severe disease efficacy has climbed to 95-100%.  Maybe true (I doubt it) but for how long?  For a month or two after vaccination?  Once you add in the negative efficacy of the first 2-3 weeks post vaccination, these numbers are a lot less impressive.  When you add in the brief period during which efficacy is high (if true) the benefits fall further.

Furthermore, the analysis assumes the vaccine protects, assumes the vaccine does not ever make disease worse (ADE) and assumes everyone unvaccinated is going to get a symptomatic case of Covid, even though in kids most develop asymptomatic cases and many will probably never get Covid, since it is likely there is some cross protection from coronavirus-caused colds.

Myocarditis post-vaccination is minimized by choosing an age group of 18-39 to study rather than the 16-17 year olds, who have a higher rate. Glad one of the ACIP members asked for clarification.  The speaker gave no real explanation why they did not use teens.

Then when the issue of risk due to anaphylaxis arises, the VAERS reporting rate for anaphylaxis (4.7/million doses) is chosen, to drastically minimize that serious side effect.  This is the most important trick:  using the VAERS rates as the real world rates of adverse events. When we know from the MGH-Brigham study the real world rate of anaphylaxis was 50-100x higher.  We don’t have data this reliable to estimate a real world myocarditis rate.

The CDC knows that if it puts the vaccine on the childhood schedule, it will be mandated for 16-17 year olds.

Based on ethics and the law, you cannot vaccinate children to lower the overall costs of healthcare, which is part of CDC’s equation.  Further, Dr. Dooling pretends that racial and ethnic minorities might be discriminated against, or suffer other impediments in their attempts ot access vaccine.  She never says that minorities have CHOSEN to be vaccinated at the lowest voluntary rate in the US.  She never admits what everyone on this call knows–that the goal is to force minorities to take the vaccine, as they are the biggest holdouts.  She keep repeating the word equitable. Like 5 or 10 times.  Then she comes up with bogus reasons for minorities to remain unvaccinated, instead of saying that 75% refused because they do not trust government public health programs.

She never used the word choice. Nor that 16-17 year olds have had access to the vaccine for 8 months, and the only unvaccinated persons are those who chose not to vaccinate.

So what is the ACIP actually recommending? In the real world, they are recommending a vaccine mandate for 16-17 year olds that will disproportionately fall on the very minorities they claimed to champion.  And they are giving Pfizer a way to avoid all liability for a licensed vaccine.  Neither of these actual reasons for this vote have been spoken.

Here is another lie that CDC keeps repeating, while it has been proven wrong in Israel:  vaccination prevents severe disease.  And another lie:  the dread deadliness of Delta.

OMG, someone actually asked about the liability.  Someone tries to talk around this. Then she decides she better “turns it over to Amanda” “bobble-head” Cohn to do the verbal spaghetti. I was unable to decipher what Amanda said.  All I can say is that she dodged the question.

Someone points out that we don’t know how the vaccine deals with Delta. All the data presented is pre-Delta.  Why won’t someone say the vaccine has clearly been shown to have less efficacy against Delta and may have no efficacy against future strains?

Amanda is back talking about “challenges to equity” and leveraging things “in the service of equity.” You just want to slap her upside the head.  They all know they are voting to force minorities to be jabbed, but no one admitted it.  The word mandate has not been used.  The liability issue has not been discussed.  But those are the only two reasons this meeting is being held.

Finally someone is telling about the CICP and NVICP, but naturally does not inform the public that only 3% of applicants have prevailed at the CICP so far.  As soon as a notice is published in the Federal Register the liability shield will go up.

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Anonymous
1 year ago

What about 1,2-Distearoyl-sn-glycero-3-phosphocholine in vaccine?
Do we need this poison in body of our kids?

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

VAERS data as of Aug. 20 2021, after covid shot by month reported symptom = VBI:
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Mar., 2021 2
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Apr., 2021 24
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION May, 2021 39
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Jun., 2021 28
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Jul., 2021 58
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Aug., 2021 72
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Total 223
+++++++++++++

VAERS data as of Aug. 20 2021, after covid shot by month reported symptom = COVID-19:
COVID-19 Dec., 2020 52
COVID-19 Jan., 2021 736
COVID-19 Feb., 2021 709
COVID-19 Mar., 2021 1,311
COVID-19 Apr., 2021 2,349
COVID-19 May, 2021 1,913
COVID-19 Jun., 2021 1,193
COVID-19 Jul., 2021 1,702
COVID-19 Aug., 2021 2,440
COVID-19 Unknown Date 253
COVID-19 Total 12,658
++++++++++++

VAERS data as of Aug. 20 2021, after covid shot by month reported symptom = covid peneumonia:
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Dec., 2020 4
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Jan., 2021 31
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Feb., 2021 40
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Mar., 2021 78
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Apr., 2021 98
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA May, 2021 173
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Jun., 2021 98
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Jul., 2021 123
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Aug., 2021 123
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Unknown Date 37
COVID-19 PNEUMONIA Total 805
+++++++++++++

VAERS data as of Aug. 20 2021, after covid shot by month reported symptom = asymptotic covid:
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Dec., 2020 4
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Jan., 2021 14
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Feb., 2021 9
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Mar., 2021 32
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Apr., 2021 47
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 May, 2021 50
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Jun., 2021 34
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Jul., 2021 65
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Aug., 2021 55
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Unknown Date 13
ASYMPTOMATIC COVID-19 Total 323

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Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

That was funny about Amanda Cohn.

The most brutal physicians I've ever encountered were female child psychiatrists, but they sure were sweet and soft-spoken, very, very well-meaning.

Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

DELTA VARIANT / UK GOVERNMENT DATA / 2X deaths after covid shot

Twice as many deaths after covid shot compared to those with zero shots, viz. COVID-19 Delta Variant. This pattern holds steady, according to two most recent UK government data sets.

Below, from UK government data, Aug. 6, 2021 report, — and most recent published online Aug. 20, 2021 report: indicate overall 2X [increase] chances of death from Delta having gotten shot:

Aug. 6 data:
TOTAL covid delta reports = 300,010
with shot = 148,956
without shot = 151,054

TOTAL after covid delta infection deaths, 1 or more shots = 489
zero shot = 253

489/300,010 = 0.0016, or 0.16% [at least one shot]
253/300,010 = 0.0008, or 0.08% [zero shot]
++++++++++++++++

Aug. 20, 2021 data:
TOTAL delta reports = 386,735
with shot = 203,602
without shot = 183,133

TOTAL after delta infection deaths, 1 or more shots =799
zero shot = 390

799/386,735 = 0.0021, or 0.21%
390/386,735 = 0.0010, or 0.10%

The Aug. 6 data at:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf

The Aug. 20 data at:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1012644/Technical_Briefing_21.pdf

This data actually indicates the risk of death increase the more shots received — after one and after two.

It is broken down by those 50 years and older, and those less than 50.

CAVEAT: [[Cases without specimen dates and unlinked sequences (sequenced samples that could not be matched to individuals) are excluded from this table.]] the report states in footnote.

Data shows column of unlinked, of one dose and of two doses and of those with zero shots.

The footnote says unlinked "excluded from this table"; however, there is "unlinked" data in table, therefore that data, it seem, is not excluded. The point being it may be "unlinked" — that is: may or may not include those with shot or zero shot; given that the data has nearly 50/50 proportion of delta in those with and without the shot, "unlinked" may be "a wash". But this word of caution is apropos.

I may add more later, with Dr. Nass' permission. For example, data shows comparison after 2 covid shots versus zero covid shots.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/investigation-of-sars-cov-2-variants-of-concern-routine-variant-data-update#history
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Anonymous
Anonymous
1 year ago

What I want to know is:
how can the USA, a country by population 5 times that of UK, how can USA be reporting to the CDC/VAERS only 223 total breakthrough covid infections?

The UK, with less than 70 million population, is reporting more than 200,000 breakthrough cases just from the Delta Variant.

The USA with more then 330 million population, via the VAERS/CDC, reporting only 223 total breakthrough cases.

Is it reasonable to infer, at this time that, in fact, there are five times as many breakthrough cases in USA via delta variant only? I D K

That would be more than 1 million in USA?

1 Million+ covid cases after getting the shot.

That would be ~ 4,000 deaths after getting killed by delta variant after getting covid shot?

But according to CDC reporting system, only 26 deaths after shot, i.e., breakthrough infection. And in UK, Delta-only = 799; a country five times less population? Tell it to Ripley’s Believe it or Not.

CDC/Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting system or VAERS, showing death by month following covid shot and then getting the infection, total = 26:
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Mar., 2021 2
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION May, 2021 11
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Jun., 2021 4
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Jul., 2021 2
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Aug., 2021 3
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Unknown Date 4
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION No Death 197
VACCINE BREAKTHROUGH INFECTION Total 223

Where is the real data in US on breakthroughs?

Why is this being hidden? And, big brother: pushing these shots even harder now, and mandates to either get them —-or lose ones job, be denied education, be thrown out of military, etc.

PS
The Big Lie pushed by the Nurse Ratchets in charge of US “public health” decisions and the MEGA PHARMA clan, summarized as follows:
Lie: Vaccine Effectiveness [VE] = ~95%

In fact, VE is, and for some time, has been: tending towards
VE = ZERO
for this poison masquerading as “vaccine.”

There are now too many dead bodies.

Permanently injured.

Folks blinded, women sterilized, some getting genital herpes after the shot, and permanent brain damage, not just blood clots and headaches, and head injuries without any blunt trauma associate, and fingers amputated and toes amputated from gangrene, etc. etc. etc. . . .

What can vaccine effectiveness even mean when, at least according to this UK government data: twice as many die of delta variant after the shot, than those with out one!

And, why is Walensky and Fauci and the criminals from whom they are taking orders – why are they continuing to LIE LIE LIE out loud, pushing vax mandates—while hiding data!

Listening to the CDC is Hazardous to your Health.

What penal colony or insane asylum would even be apropos for these beasts?

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